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Coming Soon - 1970s Hohner Corona II Jet Black with 34 Buttons - That's right, I'm customizing another corona II with 3 additional buttons. The red hohner has been great that I decided to make another one.

Hohner Corona II Pearl Red - 34 Buttons

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Wow, Gilbert! Awesome! Thanks for sharing! Are you using Italian reeds as well? Just curious.

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Happy New Year Otono!

 

 I'm using Italian reeds for the 3 extra buttons. 

 

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Hey Gilbert thats awesome,
is it eazy to do the 3 extra holes on the buttom???
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Gilberto,

 

That is a very tricky thing to do since the wood is so delicate. I have ruined a few accordions trying to make the precise holes.   I would not recommend this unless you don't mind throwing away a few accordions.

 

 


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My question is why isn't Hohner making their accordions like this? It would be something people would be willing to purchase, along with new accordions with switches like the Gabbanelli's.

 

Do they plan on doing this any time soon?

 

Also, why not either add an additional 3 notes to top or bottom for a 37 or 40 button accordion? Thus allowing people to play more complete scales in various tonos. Hmmm.

 

Or are they not doing this because then perhaps some people wouldn't purchase other tono accordions?


 

Of course I have no experience in this, but for instance on a 40 button accordion have the normal 34 button Gabbanelli set up, but add on the GCF some sostenidos on additional 3 buttons on the top along with the same notes added with 3 buttons on the bottom, but in the higher octave? Has anybody ever heard of such a thing?


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My next accordeon "Se Dios Quire" im going to buy it off you Gilbert. A hohner Corona II in FBE but not till a while. i need to put my attention in learning and not wasting money on accordeons if i dont even know how to play them. LOL
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Hohner was doing some market research last year,(34 buttons ?, 3-5 switches?) what will become of this research if anything remains to be seen.


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Nice work Gilbert!

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Gracias Otono!

I also replaced the old grille, added new double strap hardware, and corona II classic below straps.  I like the snap on below straps more so than the simple leather strip with a hole at the end.

 

I did custom work on a new corona II classic and it was not the same.  These old 70s models with the larger flat buttons seem to work much better for this type of system. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Good wish list transplanted Californio.  I guess that makes me a transplanted Tejano.

 

I'm not to partial to hand made reeds.  I really like the no frills approach to the accordion.  Maybe because I just got tiered of my Italian boxes.  I started with a hohner, and now I'm back to the hohner. Unfortunately I got used to the 34 system thus my new custom hohners. Otherwise I would not go through the trouble.

 

Like my dad always said, no hay dinero en la musica. 


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Looks great Gilbert! What tono is the black one in? I am also partial to my Hohner from among my accordions.

 

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Saludos Tony!

 

It's a GCF.  Both the red and black are in this key since that is what I play the most.  Call me so we can get together and have a jam session with Pete and Layo.

 

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Very interesting work, Gilbert.

In days long gone by, Hohner would have gotten in touch with you to redesign their instruments. But this pioneer spirit is gone.

At least at Hohner Germany - Hohner USA iniciated a quantum leap with the "extreme bending harp", designed by Rick Epping.

Maybe you could upstirr a similar revolution for the Corona.

Hohner once had the feeling for right moves. When in 1928 Ernst Hohner got the news, that accordion builder and repair man Venancio Morino, an Italian living in Geneve, Switzerland, had trouble with his business partner, he went to Geneve to offer Morino a job as chief designer at Hohner. Morino took this offer and designed in the following years the most enduring Hohner accordions, namely the Morino models.

Because accordion sales are not what they used to be, Hohner concentrates on the piano accordion models, diatonic accordions seem to be of no interest to them.

I think, they don´t even know, that they are building one of the most important instruments of world music. Every other manufacturer would have trailers of "Chulas Fronteras" or "El acordeon del diablo" on their website or would mention, that the instrument can be heard on a CD of the Rolling Stones, but on the Hohner Germany website they spent one sentence on the Corona.

I tried to find out, who designed the Hohner Corona, but at Hohner they don´t even know. In the years since the inception of the Corona the only design ideas regarding the Corona were, how to cheapen the manufacture process. So a lot of nice features got lost, like the wooden keyboard, flat chrome grille...

By all means it´s five minutes to twelve for Hohner to do something for the Corona, because otherwise other manufacturers will take over this market segment.


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Greetings Peter,

 

Indeed I feel the same way you do -- Hohner has lost its pioneer spirit. The hohner corona accordion has played a key role in world music and if promoted and packaged correctly, this could be a winner.

 

My assumption is that Hohner Germany is not really in tune with what is going on in the U.S., Mexico, and other Latin American countries and how their accordion has impacted the Spanish market. If you turn on any Latin American TV station, more likely than not, you will see a three-row button accordion and not a piano accordion. The same can be said with the Texas, California, and Florida music scene.

 

This market is HUGE and a lot of other accordion companies are trying to grab a piece of it. I know accordion vendors who are learning how to speak Spanish and trying real hard to make it seem that they know and understand the Spanish speaking culture and music in order to make a buck. So this is a clear indication that there is money to be made.

 

Hohner USA - Rick Epping understood this and we talked about it a couple of times but he is no longer with the company. So who to talk to is the question and, is Hohner even interested is another. If I knew how to speak German, I would indeed lobby for such a product as the 34 button system.


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GILBERT..

 

I JUST SEEN AN OLD HOHNER (OLDER THEN YOURS) ONE OF THOSE SQUARISH ONES WITH THE SHARP EDGES.

 

IT HAS ONE EXTRA BUTTON ONLY..   BUT IT WAS INSTALLED ON THE OPPISITE SIDE ( THE TOP SIDE) WHERE THE LOWER PITCH NOTES ARE..

 

 

THE GUY TOLD ME HE HAD THIS PUT ON IN ORDER PLAY "LA" EASIER IN HIS GCF..

 

THIS GUY IS AN OLD TIMER 70'S TO EARLY 80'S AND HE IS A POLKERO LIMPIO.

 

HE ALSO HAD HIS ACCOORDION "RE-EMICADO" NEW CELLOLOID PUT ON IT.. HE SPENT AROUND 300 US DOLLARS FOR THIS.. INCLUDING THE NEW BELLOW TAPE.

 

I FOUND THIS EXTRA BUTTON TO BE VERY ODD..  SIMILAR TO THOSE 34 BUTTON HOHNERS( I CANT REMEMBER THE EXACT BRAND NAME OF THE 34 BUTTON BOXES) THAT HAVE THE EXTRA 3 BUTTONS ON THE TOP SIDE.

 

 

 

HEY GILBERT... YOUR ACCORDION LOOKS JUST LIKE MINE.. EXEPT THE EXTRA BUTTONS.   WANT TO TRADE!   NADA SE PIERDE CON PREGUNTAR.

 

 

CONGRATULATIONS WITH YOUR SITE...

ARRIBA TODO TERAN Y PUEBLOS Y CON BECINOS.

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Hey gilbert whats up first i would like to congratulate you on the honher look bad ass.. I would like to ask you how much do you charge for a job like this.... I gota panther that i would like to custmize... is it good to customize a panther or better to customize a corona II.. Iam just curious since it would be a very good deal since gabby's are 34 button.. say you play gabbys the you wan to change to hohner in a gig well you got almost the same feell ke no... well great job and hope to hear from you soon...

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Saludos Mario,

 

Fifteen years ago I met a gentleman from Mexicalli, Mexico who had customized his hohner to 4 rows.  I’m not really sure how in the world he was able to make the configuration to add the necessary hardware to make that thing work.   But he did.  I asked to take a look inside to see what in the world he had done and he refused to open the accordion.   As it stands, it takes a lot of work to add three extra buttons. I can imagine what he went through in building this.  There are some accordion players out there that for some reason or another, need an extra button on the top or the bottom first row.  I use to customize my hohners with only one extra button and change the notes around for a particular sound that I was looking for.  Will I trade it for yours?  It really does not hurt to ask!

 

Saludos Omar,

 

The reason I went back to the hohner was basically for the sound.  I really like the old traditional style of music with the hohner.  It also gives me the opportunity to experiment with some blues tunes I have written.  The hohner sounds closer to a harmonica than the other accordions I have.   I will do custom work on older models -- 1960s /1970s.  I did a classic and I was not happy with the results.  So I really do not recommend this custom work on any of the new accordions including the panther.  Believe me, you can get all of the notes on your standard 31 button box.   I just got so accustomed to 34 buttons that I feel lost without the additional three notes. 

 

 

Thank you both for participating on our forum.

 

 

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heY GILBERT... wELL THANKS FOR THE REPLY.. WELL YEAH I ALSO LIKE HONHERS... I HAVE A PANTHER AND A HOHNER IN FBE BUT THAT FBE HOHNER CORONA II IS LIKE REALLY BUSTED.. LIKE SOME REEDS OUT OF TUNE THE BELLOWS. ARE SHOT.. THE CELLUIOD IS LIKE CRACKED AND COMING OFF, THIS ACCORDIONWAS A GIFT FROM THE GUY THAT TAUGHT ME THE ACCORDION..... ITS LIKE REALLY OLD i DONT EVEN NOW HOW OLD IT IS  BUT SURE IS OLD CUZ THE HOHNER LOGO AND THE CORONA II IS LIKE DIFFERNT ITS NOT LIKE THE BLACK ONE YOU DID.. THE NAME IS DIFFERNT LETTERS... IT WAS WITH THE ACCORDION HE STARTED TO PLAY.. BUT IT SURE NEEDS SOME WORK AND ITS BETTER OFF BUYING NEW CORONA II FOR THE AMOUNT YOU WILL SPEND ON IT REPAIRING IT.. I NOW WHAT YOU MEAN THE OLDER THE BETTER.. THERE LIKE WINE.. HAHAH LOL...  WHAT WERE THE BAD THINGS WITH THE CORONAS YOU CUSTOMIZED..???? aND HOW MUCH IS THE COST FOR THSI KINDA JOB...

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Hola Glenn,

 

 

Thank you!  But it does not really take much talent to do custom work on these boxes. What it does take is experimenting and breaking a few accordions in the process.   When I did the black hohner, I was sweating bullets since it is a 70s mint condition.  One wrong move and I would have had an accordion for parts.  Whatever happened to Valerio’s 4-row?

 

 

Omar,

 

 

The panther and 3500 model have celluloid fingerboards, it would be almost impossible to manually alter the dimensions inside.  The classic does not have the necessary room needed for such configuration.   Even though it is built like the old hohners, there are some minor differences the way they were made.   I only do custom work on my accordions.  The reason for this is that I do not want to be responsible for breaking accordions that do not belong to me, and, it takes a lot of work.  I have been asked to do this on a number of accordions and I’ve turned them all down.  So no, I do not do this for profit, only for my own enjoyment.


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Oh ok thanks i see the problem... since the old hohners has a cover right on the button on the top no the bottom like the new ones do... yeah i get you... and well i understand if you wreck one well it gong to be very big problem... no... But well thanks for the info... keep up the good work...and were can i buy new bellow like from the coronas for my panther... since th panthers don t last... i got joke When i got my hohner panther the guy that taught me was all ya comparates tu pathfinder hahahah instead of panther... that how icall tha accordion pathfinder.. hahah well hit me up on a used or new bellows for my panther ok thanks have good day omar

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Gilbert,

 

Nice work on the 34 button modification to the Corona IIs and thank you for the nice photograph. I also prefer the vintage Corona IIs. I am looking for a flush mounted grille for one of my Corona IIs. If you know of anyone that you could refer me to, I appreciate it. Thanks...Bill Willard

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I'm here in Southern Cal at NAMM and had the chance to talk to rep from Hohner.   He has been reading this link and as I posted earlier, it is all about production cost and return on the investment.  I told him they should at least put out a test model and conduct a survey.

 

To my pleasant surprise however, Baffetti came out with a small compact accordion like the one Joel Guzman uses -- with 34 buttons.  It is a solid box. Later I will post pics and talk about some of the other accordion brands I had a chance to try.  

 

 

 

 


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Gilbert,

I was talking to the marketing director of Hohner here in Germany. He wants to get in touch with you. Send me an eMail.

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Talked to Hohner and we will see what happens.  They like the concept.


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HEY GILBERT YOU SPOKE TO HOHNER.. THA SOUNDS GREAT.. YOU TALKED ABOUT MAKING A 34 BUTTON HOHNER.. OR WHAT?????

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Hi Gilbert ! Just wanted to say ,how awsome this accordions look ! Wow very very nice work, Men wouldn't mind owning one some day. Keep up the good work, Tu Amigo Johnny from Lansing Mi.
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Yes I spoke to Hohner Germany about the 34 button accordion.  So we will see what happens.

 

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Go to the Accordion Store and we do sell new hohner accordions.  We will be carrying other lines shortly.

 

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Hola Johnny,  thanks for stopping by and leaving a message.


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Wow!  Gilbert, I saw you and your group at the Festival de La Familia about three years ago.  By chance I came across your site and WOW!  I will be sending you an email to see if we can get together and Jam.  How and where can I get one of these 34 buttons hohners?  Is hohner making them soon?   Hope to be speaking with you soon.

 

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Albert,

 

Send me an email at gilberto@reyesaccordions.com . We get together at least once a week to jam and have some fun.  We will be playing this year at the Festival de La Familia in April.  Maybe you can make it.


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Sr Gilberto Reyes mil gracias por todo el ezfuerzo y tiempo que le dedica a este foro, Es usted una Gran persona que se preocupa por mantener tradiciones y compartir su conosimiento. Que dios lo Bendiga siempre y aunque apenas empiezo a aprender a sacarle musica a el acordeon es una inquietud y pacion que siempre he tenido. Gracias a Esta Pagina Reyes Accordions muchisimas personas como este su servidor tienen la oportunidad de aprender. MIL GRACIAS!!!!!! y que Dios lo Bendiga siempre!!!
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Hola Albert (MaciasMan)! Glad to see you on the forums! Both of Gilbert's Hohners look great with the 34 buttons. You will be impressed. I live in Antelope near you, so hopefully we will get to meet soon! Later...

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Hi Tony,

 

Thank you!  I will be going to your next jam session.  Looking forward to meeting you and the other members.  Can't wait to see those hohners.  I sent you a messsage.

 

 

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Gracias por tus palabras.  Espero que tu y tu familia se encuntren bien de salude.  Me da gusto que podemos ayudarte con el lo basico de como tocar el acordeon.  Este sitio esta aqui para alludarle a personas como tu.  Gracias por tu participacion en el foro.

 

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I thought Hohner already had an accordion series with switches, I don't know if they come with 34 buttons, but I remember seeing them with 3 and 5 switch models. I can't remember if it was on Hohners website though, they might have looked alright if the grill was the same as the corona's, but they looked like they were plastic and had circle-pattern designs, everything else looked alright I guess. I'd say keep everything the same on the corona's except I would put 3 switches like Gabbs in the same place as Gabbs, and would like to see them come out with two-tone colored and even a Dark charcoal grey-pearl colored corona and maybe some instructions on how to loop the straps the right way so that they don't keep coming undone!

I'm really ignorant on this, and if any body can help me on this it is greatly appreciated. I used to hate the old flimsy straps that came with the Hohner, but they were easy to loop and fasten, with the current ones, I'm paranoid about them coming undone and I can't have my brand new baby damaged because my women will damage me, she bought it for me, too long of a story to tell.

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Some do have switches, but Hohner does not make a 34 button accordion.

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So, if I have a 34 button Corona II, it had to be made from 31 button to 34 button?

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That is correct, hohner 34 button accordions do not exist.  If you do have one, it was probably modified.

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I play a little bajo but trying to learn the accordion.  I'm a bit confused.  I borrowed my dad's sol Corona II and it has 34 buttons but it has the extra 3 buttons on the top rather than the bottom like the one gilbert posted.  Here comes the question...  If i'm trying to read a tab do i still follow the same key numbering convention?  That is the top button on the first row is G1 and so on? or do i offset it by one? 

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Tabs remain the same. G1 is still G1... the "extra" buttons are G11, C12 & F11.

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even if the extra buttons are on top?

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No, if the extra buttons are on the top, like you said, you would then have to count G2 as G1, C2 as C1, and F2 as F1 when reading tabs. If the extra buttons were at the bottom, you would read the tabs normally. Like you said, offset everything by one.
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lilgigilo,

I reread your first question and saw you mentioned that your dad's Corona II has "34 buttons ...on the top". Sorry I replied so fast, because that's obviously a custom job someone did. Unless they still followed the schematic that Sandro and I were referring to, I can't imagine what they'd put up there (note-wise). Reason being that the standard layout puts the additional sharps and flats (the ones not included in your G, C, or F major scales: Eb/D#, Ab/G# & Dd/C#) on the top. This breaks the logic that the rest of the layout follows. We're accustomed seeing to the additional buttons "on the bottom" to increase the note range in the higher registers.... but who knows what you have? I'd be curious to find out once you do. Could you identify the notes of those top 3 buttons?

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Gilbert esa accordion se mira muy bonita felicidades!

Fijate que mi cuñado esposo de mi hermana se llama Rodrigo Gonzalez es uno de los Reparadores y Afinadores mas jovenes de accordiones que conosco. Su abuelo el Sr. Baldemar Elizondo QEPD le dejo el oficio, lo enseño a afinar y reparar accordiones, y el me dice que es muy dificil convertir las Hohners de 31 a 34 botones asi que felicidades en serio!! "Master"


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 HOHNEREYES GILMASTERNELLI!!!!


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I think the 34 button accordion .. with the xtra buttons on the top side

is an old SCALA..    

 

that's the brand I was refering to in th eeraler post.. 

scala had 34 buttons from the factory.. on the tops side..  so yes.. it's kind of odd to play one of those.

 

it looks just like a hohner..   exept the name... and of corse,  the extra buttons.

 

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Congratulations!  Looks Great Gilbert!  I have an older Corona as well.  I read in your posting that you replaced the bellows as well.  Where Did You purchase them? I have been looking forerever but seem to have no Luck.  Thanks
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Hi Hector,

 

New bellows fit just fine.  Some adjustments need to be made where the pins go in since it does not align evenly.  I have these bellows available.

 

 

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Gilbert, Thanks for the quick reply.  I'm kind of caught in tight financial situation, (College student with all kinds of bills to pay)but why don't you send me more info I really want to get them. 

Here is my email

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