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I have always had a problem trying to memorize the names of the notes on the button board.  One of the last times I visited with Joel Guzman he showed me what he called "flowers" (the white buttons on my accordion), on a GCF the flowers contain all of the natural notes: A, B, C, D, E, F and G. So once you learn to visual this pattern you almost have the entire button board memorized.  I needed a way to remember the rest of the buttons after I got the flower pattern in my head.  I painted all of the accidentals on one of my accordions gold so that I could visualize their location. Two Bb's on the inside row, two F#'s on the outside row and an Eb, Ab and a C# at the top of the rows. After doing that I painted the remaining 6 buttons that were not part of the flowers black, these are repeats of notes in the flowers: E, A and D.

 

Within minutes of the paint drying I was playing chromatic scales, scale finger exercises in several keys and playing with alternate fingerings for songs I already play. It is like a lightbulb went on in my head. All these years of struggling to remember where to find an E or a Bb were behind me in just a few minutes.

 

I have attached a scan of the button board that I painted along with 2 illustrations, the first being the legend for the notes played out as painted and the other being the names of the notes played in with a similar flower pattern. The pattern in seemed much easier to see in my mind than the out pattern (the only accidentals are at the top of each row: C#, F# and Eb, and only the C and G repeat) so I didn't see any need to alter another accordion to memorize these notes, I just needed to note the differences in the pattern in my head.

 

Hopefully this will help some of you who without the proper visual cues find it hard to learn certain things, I am one who needs to see to understand. 

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Charlie -

 

I really appreciate your thinking and work on this.  It greatly simplifies how to think about the keyboard and where the notes are.  When JG showed me the flower, I thought it was a handy notion, but wondered how it relates to the non-flowers.  This brings it together.  Thanks for this useful scheme.  I've already printed it out on my color printer.

 

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John


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Wow !!!! thanks alot that helps alot alot . this accordeon is in GCF wright .

Thanks alot amigo for your help and time !!!

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Just a note: If you have 34 buttons on your accordion, the last button in each row complete the 3rd flower in the OUT diagram. And played IN give you a repeat of the G at the bottom of the last flower and two C's that are the same (like the two G's at the top of the button board) 

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Josey,

This pattern only works for the GCF but others patterns, I'm sure, could be seen on other boxes in different keys. This pattern is based on the Natural notes, non-sharped and non-flatted.

 

Also the order of the notes are ABCDEFG (out) and BCDEFGA (in)

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one row Richter tuning, just like a harmonica.
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One row, at least for me, was easy enough to remember, but when trying to workout a song on all 3 rows I needed a way to visualize the entire keyboard.

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Exactly Jacinto, the use of the flower pattern makes my button board read more like a piano keyboard in my mind. Not linear but easier for me to find a flow to the scales.

 

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Q TAL gnarlitos Y AMIGOS DE REYES ACCORDIONS.

 

ME PARECE INTERESANTE TU MANERA DE EXPLICARNOS ESTE MODO DE APRENDIZAJE, MAS SIN EMBARGO COMO NO ENTIENDO MUCHO EL INGLES  LES PEDIRIA SI ALGUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR CON LA TRADUCCION DE ESTE METODO.

 

SOY PRINCIPIANTE Y ESTE TIPO DE TEORIA CREO Q ME AYUDARA MUCHO EN MI APRENDIZAJE.

 

GRACIAS

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luis , creeo que puedo ayudarte , pero con quidado eh por que mi espanol no es el mejor en el mundo........

si quieres una manera de recordar las notas, busca por una "flor". en esa flor (si tienes la acordeon de gcf) todas las notas van hacer naturales. es como un hexagono(en el foto son las botones blancas)

si figas el foto tambien hay dos linas que van cruzando la acordeon, en el foto son las botones negras. esas botones significan que hay dos del mismo boton

y las de oro son accidentales "Bemol y Sostenido"

ahorra....si su acordeon es en el tono de FA (F, Bb, Eb) como todos que tocan en el estilo de nortena, es un poquito diferente pero casi lo mismo.

si miras el cirulo de quintos, gcf son tres movimientos pa la derecha del f b e

el flor es muy bueno para encontrar las notas como no dice nada en las botones, es todo lo que es
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Hola Luis y amigos de este foro:

 

Mi explicación según lo que comprendí del método de la flor para memorizar las notas de una manera fácil y rápida es la siguiente, espero que les ayude:

 

En un acordeón de afinación GCF, digamos que la figura de una flor representa todas las notas naturales tales como: A, B, C, D, E, F y G. Habiendo identificado y memorizado las notas de la figura de la flor prácticamente ha aprendido todas las notas. Ahora para poder memorizar las otras notas que contienen los bemoles y sostenidos necesita pintarlas del color que le guste, esto solo con el fin de que usted sepa que solo ese color tendrá las notas (BEMOLES(b) Y SOSTENIDOS(#)), nuestro amigo gnarlitos pinto sus botones de color oro, eso yo creo que es cuestión de gusto. Por ultimo, las líneas que se encuentran de color negro en la imagen de gnarlitos, son notas repetidas, eso quiere decir que ya se encuentran en la figura de la flor. Eso es lo que comprendí de su muy buena explicación, por cierto aprovecho para felicitarle y agradecerle al amigo gnarlitos por compartir esa brillante manera de memorizar las notas del acordeón.

 

Saludos, att: KM1L0


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MUCHAS GRACIAS POR SU AYUDA......LA VERDAD ES QUE ES UNA MANER AMUY SENCILLA DE APRENDERSE LAS NOTAS......

UNA PREGUNTA MAS...... CON QUE SE PUEDEN PINTAR LAS TECLAS O SERA MEJOR COMPRARLAS EN ALGUN LUGAR YA CON COLOR NATURAL????

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Yo siempre había querido aprenderme la distribución de los botones en el acordeón, y lo intenté de varios métodos, inclusive estarlos diciendo mecánicamente para ver "si se me quedaban", este método ayuda demasiado y lo facilita de gran manera, muchas gracias por compartirlo, me fue de gran ayuda, ahora a seguir practicando, ¡muchas gracias!

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Thanks for sharing this easy to learn method.
Now I want to share this pictures that I made.

> = Out, < = In

I`ve checked the key notes of the images, please post me a message to correct any mistake.

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Gracias por compartir este metodo facil de aprendizaje.
Ahora yo quiero compartir estos diagramas que hice.

> = Fuera, < = Dentro

He checado las notas de los diagramas y estan correctas, en caso contrario haganmelo saber para corregir los errores.

31 Buttons / Botones
34 Buttons / Botones




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Carcarodon,

Thanks for the images, this is exactly what I was looking for...

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THIS IS GREAT ,BUT I AM STILL LOOKING FOR A VIDEO ON LEARNING THE SCALES AND CHORDS I HAVE FLACOS AND TIM ALEXANDERS BUT YOU CANT SEE THE BUTTONS THAT THEY PRESS IN /OUT ,DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ONE OUT THERE ?I LIVE IN CHICAGO THERE ISNT MUCH OUT HERE ON CONJUNTO MUSIC .


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Have you tried senor maestro?

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Ranco, as far as I know, las escalas son las mismas en cualquier acordeon. si tienes un acordeon en FA la escala de F seria la misma que la de la escala en G en un acordeon en GCF. La escala de Bb seria la misma que C y la escala de Eb seria la misma que F en el acordeon GCF.  Yo tambien estoy aprendiendo y tambien tengo un acordeon en FA. Usa el Senor maestro para que te aprendas las escalas.

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@Charlie: I realize it's been nearly 5 years since you created this post, but just wanted to thank you for taking the time to share your color-coded buttons. It really does help mentally map out the notes -- and it beats staring down at 31 white buttons.

@Chuck: Thanks for sharing your diagrams as well. And since you asked, it appears that your GCF button diagrams show A#'s instead of Bb's in the F row.
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Does anybody know how to paint the buttons? I tried markers (permanent) but they smear off....Thanks in advance!

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pop them off and paint them

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Caballeros,

I finally purchsed my first accordion, the Hohner Panther. What a buy! It's becoming a dream come true. But to realize it, I know it will take work on my part. In my heart, I've been playing the air accordion since I was 6, but now at 31, it'll be different actually learning to play, for real. Not just aire!

I have a few questions that I'm hoping some of the regulars (and even new members) can help me with. Everyone will benefit, I'm sure.

1.) I've downloaded the Senor Maestro program, as per the recommendation of almost everyone on this forum. I agree that it is a FANTASTIC program. However, I am having trouble on where to begin. The Panther is keyed in GCF. Should I begin by learning single note scales on each row (Liike the Hohner book shows...Do, Re, Mi, Fa, So La, Ti, Do.)? Should I begin with the Major scale in single notes on the Senor Maestro program? Should I learn chords? Where do I start?

2.) What about the fingering? For 2, 3, or more notes on a chord, how do I properly finger them? It would be nice to see some sort of a visual diagram for fingering each note properly? Know what I mean?

3.) I know the program is in Spanish, as are the videos. But not being a fluent Spanish speaker conversationally, it becomes increasingly difficult to follow since he is using technical music terms, in Spanish. Anyone know of any other videos in English, possibly?

4.) The Reyes forum has tab for music and MP3s, too. But the last time that any of those tabs were posted was back in 2005. Does anyone know if there will be any other tabs added, or know of a tab site for accordion music. (I have a long way to go before I am able to play well enough to pick up playing a song, but there are lots of songs and polkas that I I'd like to learn that are not on the tab list from the Reyes forum.)

Thanks in advance to anyone who is even willing to give me some feedback/info.

Conjunto, Pa Que Sepas!
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