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ac23jordan

Registered: 12/07/05
Posts: 15
 #1 

me gusta mucho el acordeon y me gustaria saber si alguien sabe de algun metodo facil para aprender a tocar , me gusta mucho la musica de ramon ayala y los cadetes de linares saludos desde texas ......

joemendoza

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Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 103
 #2 
my opinion is for you to get a teacher. he will teach you the tonos and stuff you would like in order to play the music you like. you can also try the tabs here in reyes there are great !!


 #3 
no se ocupa maestro para aprender las escalas aqui hay un programa gratuito ke te ensenia las escalas. lo escribio Paco Rios miembro de este foro. Ya que las sepas un maestro quiza te ayude para la tecnica pero yo lo poquito que se lo he aprendido de ese programa. y de ver a otra gente tocar.

Echale ganas

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ElOaklandero

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Registered: 10/14/05
Posts: 244
 #4 

bien dicho EAZY ...yo tambien tuve ese problema , pero en este webpage aprendi lo k tuve k aprender , y asta ahora kiero pedir gracias a los compitas k me an ayudado  y tambien a este webpage k tenemos .sin tener compas k nos dan tab's y nos dan videos ,yo no pudria saber como tocar las rolas k yo kisiera aprender.... muchas gracias compas....

pU

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Registered: 10/25/05
Posts: 235
 #5 
The nice thing about the diatonic accordion is: it«s so easy to play, that you don«t need a teacher or metodo. The concept behind the setup of the rows on the right hand side and the chords on the left hand is that you play by ear and invent your own music. In a rural community no notes or teachers were available, so people made up their own music on the accordion.

The biggest mistake is to start with playing existing songs, the idea of the layout of the instrument is to start improvising simple folk dance melodies. The instrument was built to accompany folk dances.
Keep a rhythm going on the four middle buttons on the left side and play any note in any order on the middle row of the right side (except the first button): The result - instant folk dance music.

The player can go on for hours and never repeat himself. This is the forte of a diatonic instrument: no wrong notes! The notes change ACCORDING to the direction of the bellow.

If you run out of melodies on the middle row, try the other rows.
On the push all notes are ok (except the first button),
on the pull avoid on the outer row button 5 and 9 and the first button, on the inner row button 4 and 8 and the first button.

After some time of playing your "fingers will get ears" and you«ll know intuitive where you have to go for a distinct note.

If you have reached this point, you can play other people«s songs, use tabulature, but never before you reach this stadium, because you would be playing against the nature of the instrument.

If you watch Pacho Rada in the film "El acordeon del diablo", you will see, what I was talking about.


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Registered: 10/25/05
Posts: 235
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Everybody should know EL ACORDEîN DEL DIABLO.
On this page you can download a 90 sec trailer: http://www.acordeon.de

This film shows how creative people can get with a diatonic accordion, actually all of them play a Hohner Corona III BbEbAb customized to BEA. In one scene you can watch an accordion tuner doing this custom tuning for vallenato.

EL ACORDEÓN DEL DIABLO tells the story of that great old man of Caribbean music, Pacho Rada. It is the tale of a singer and composer who first held an accordion at the age of four and was never to let go of it again. A man who throughout his life travelled around Colombia, moving from village to village and from party to party, singing and playing for a few centavos. He's 93 now and lives in a corrugated iron shack on the outskirts of Santa Marta in Colombia, whilst his songs climb up the hit parades.

This film embarks with Pacho Rada on a journey along the Caribbean costa of Colombia, voyaging into the world of musicians and singers who have grown up with Salsa, Cumbia and Vallenato. The musician who transformed Colombian Cumbia and bullfight tunes into a fiery big band sound, Alfredo Gutierrez, also performs in the film. And then there is the undisputed star, Israel Romero, king of Vallenato, hurling himself into a breathtaking virtuoso accordion duel with his nephew El Morré.

Although Pacho Rada is one of the founding fathers of Caribbean music, he actually became famous through a book. Gabriel Garcia Marquez paid tribute to him in the novel, "One Hundred Years of Solitude". The figure of the troubadour, Francisco El Hombre, who one night has a fateful encounter with the devil, is modelled on Pacho Rada. In an accordion duel fought out to the bitter end, the troubadour gets the better of the devil and saves his own soul.

The boundaries between dream and reality are blurred in Pacho Rada's tales, just as they are in Marquez's novels. The daily struggle to survive in Colombia is just as real to Pacho Rada as fables and fairy tales. The film enters into both these universes with him, exploring a country torn asunder by poverty and violence and a fantastic realm of legends and captivating music.


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This is a German film by Stefan Schwietert.

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mikehirst

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Registered: 06/01/05
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Whilst I agree with everything that Peter Unbehauen has said with regard to the diatonic accordeon being an ideal instrument for solo improvisation, to suggest that the resulting simple harmonic structures can be described as folk dance melodies is as erroneous as his suggestion that in rural areas music is not transferred from one musician to another, or is taught to others.

Within every culture I have encountered in both Europe and the new world the transference of musical knowledge has been regarded as a cultural priority. In my own part of the world - Northumberland - a wild expanse of hills and moorland stretching between the Industrial wasteland of Lancashire,Yorkshire and Durham to the South and the Scottish Border to the North it was the practice, within living memory,  for the Shepherds and other hill folk to walk from valley to valley, throughout the summer months making temporary dance halls from the barns and open spaces; sharing music through the night and walking home at dawn. Shepherds I have met have described how they wrapped themselves in blankets as they walked over the misty hills. These clothes, known as plaids, had one corner turned up to create a pocket known as the plaid neuk. It was here that they would carry a new born lamb found in the February snow. It was here too that the would carry the violin or bagpipe that they would play at the harvest supper.

Amongst these hill folk musical literacy was commonplace. It was the practice for established musicians to keep a manuscript book in which they wrote all the tunes which they played. Sometimes these melodies were copied from other sources, sometimes they were transcribed from the musicians own playing. Such books were kept by both fiddle players and pipers, some books have been found that belonged to harp or flute players. these books were often passed on from one musician to another either following a death or as a mark of respect. The more manuscripts a musician owned the higher his standing in the musical community. I know of one musician, John Armstrong of Carrick, who worked a remote hill farm in the 1950's and owned at least four manuscripts dating back to the late 18th and early 19th Centuries

Examples of these manuscripts can be found on the FARNE (Folk Archive North East) website - an online musical archive which I helped create. http://www.folknortheast.com

The diatonic accordeon reflects the era in which it was developed, in particular in the harmonic options which it offers. These are perfect for playing the popular melodic forms of the mid to late 19th century. They are, however, woefully inadequate when applied to earlier musical forms. The diatonic accordeon is well known in the South of England where the pedestrian structures of the 19th century polka and waltz dance forms have been allowed to dominate. In the Northern counties it is not so well known and in Northumberland in particular it hardly known at all. The indigenous musical forms remain closer to those known in the 16th, 17th and 18th Centuries rather than the 19th century forms preferred in the South. The rhythm, time signatures and harmonic structure of these melodies do not fit so easily on the diatonic instrument. The harmonic structure most commonly found is based on a duo tonic structure, with both Lydian and mixolydian scales not being uncommon. This being a direct development from the scalar structures used on the older forms of indigenous Northern English bagpipe.

Whilst I have gone into detail over this relatively small and insignificant musical tradition, it is my suggestion that this experience can be seen as a parallel in many other traditions. It is certainly the case that Sicilian diatonic accordeon players reflect their own Island culture in their unique approach to the instrument and the same is true of many other cultures.

juanramon

Registered: 11/17/09
Posts: 1
 #9 

hola mi nombre es juan ramon yo tengo un acordeon hohone corona 11 yo nesecito aprender a tocar acordeon pero no tengo nada de conocimiento en el acordeon que devo hacer para apreder

tarasco702

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Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 423
 #10 

Busquen el programa sr. maestro ese les dira como tocar las escalas acordes y demas, y teoria.com les enseñara como usarlas. Con esos dos tienen pa ke aprendan. El algo si estoy de acuerdo con los posts previos, aprendan lo basico primero y despues toquen las rolas.


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moway82

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Registered: 02/17/10
Posts: 294
 #11 
Estoy de acuerdo, con varios de los cometarios aki, yo empece a tocar el acordeon en febrero, sin una sola idea de en ke me estaba metiendo, no sabia ni ke se afinaban en diferentes tonos jeje
El programa señor maestro me ayudo mucho a aprender las escalas, en este momento no digo ke ya sea un experto, pero considero ke he aprendido bastante, todo esta en la dedicacion y la practica.
A veces va a ser frustrante, pero ya que te aprendes una rola y luego otra, vale la pena el esfuerzo.

Saludos

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JL

Registered: 10/03/07
Posts: 99
 #12 

yo tengo mas 6 anios  aprendiento tocar el acordeon y los dedos no se me quieren aflojar sera que estoy viejo? tengo 45 y ademas cuando quiero tocar con grupo me pongo nervioso y no le aggarro el tiempo, algun consejo? luis


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