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krazyking

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I have a question about segunda voz. How does one get there voice so high? and is it singing high in general or is it sung in thirds or octaves? Because i would like to learn how to sing segunda voz.
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it's in 3rds and Sixths, mainly.  
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Thank you very much JohnLeos. Its possible for me to learn right its just a matter of practice? Or do I have to naturally be able to sing in the higher pitches and octaves?
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well, first off, remember that 3rds and 6ths are inverts of each other.

for example

I sing: Do

You sing: Mi, in the same octave. That's a 3rd. It should sound tight and pleasant.
 
Now

I sing: Do 

You sing: Mi, an octave below, that's a 6th. It will sound open, buts still pleasant.

In other words, Start by matching the pitch of the harmony. Then focus on the octave. 


If I sing Do and you sing Mi in an octave above me, that would make it a 9th, which sounds cool but weird.

When you sing the right pitch but way off octave is just sounds weird.


As far as learning segunda, it just takes time. I couldn't do it naturally, I had to learn. Practice by listening to your favorite song and and sing along, but don't sing the melody with the vocalist, sing a different note. it may be completely wrong, but get used to to not matching the melody. after sometime, your ear will get used to hearing the harmonies, and you expand your ear chops record yourself, and see how off, or close, you are to what the harmony should be. 

Or, if you have the patience, learn the melody on your instrument, then figure the harmony and play it, and memorize the harmony as if it were a whole new song. That way when it's time to sing, it comes naturally out of habit. 

This takes time, unless you're a natural.,. Good luck!



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Thanks for the help! I appreciate it a lot. [biggrin] Getting a group together and well i would like to sing and i found a primera voz so that's why I wanted to learn how to sing segunda, and thanks again for the advice.
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Just like john said, start singing along with the songs you hear either on the radio or in your car(so no one can hear you). And practice, practice, PRACTICE. Pay close attention to the segunda voz. You'll notice that they stay pretty much a third or 6th above or below primera voz. Sometimes depending on the feeling of the song you might even hear a fourth. That's how I learned. Now, just for fun, I add a third part to the songs. On some it actually doesn't sound too bad. If you really want to get into this, study harmonic functions, and chord compositions in musical theory. That will basically break down the different types harmonies and give you an idea of what your doing. But like I said. PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Hechale ganas!!!


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