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Rico

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I tried a Serenata button accordion with all the gadgets today. It was fabulous. It was an awesom experience. It was solid and loud with wet tuning. It blew the keys off my Hohner. The owner of this accordion said he liked an older one that he sold with the name Organola better. He said it had a better sound and was even louder. Has any one ever heard of these brands? And where can I find them. The Serenata was made in Calidstafaro, Italy. The city spelling is wrong but close.

 

 


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I have an excelsior ADG gold sparkle 3 switch with cagnoni reeds that says SERENATA along the treble (where you would find brand name ie: GABB, HOHNER etc.) Does the Serenata accordion you tried have an "E" design in the plastic grill face? If it does it is an Excelsior and is made in Castlefidoro.  

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If these are 50's and 60's accordions.. the quality is likely going to be good regardless of the make, as materials and workmanship was at its height. Serenata... most likely a sub-brand of a major builder and Organola was a very well known builder.. mostly chromatics.. found on French eBay regularly.Organola did diatonics as well which resembled the old Hohner Club models. I doubt either has been in production for many years, but, could be wrong.

 

Serenelli is another brand which sounds much like the Serenata one..

 

 

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Thanks For responding guys,  The Serenata is brand new and says "special made in Castlefidoro" on it because the owner plays the treble side with his left hand and the bass with the right. Just like if you had the accordion upside down. The Organolla was about three years old. He told me the place where he gets them in Portugal. The web site is "casadasconcertinas.pt" they also carry Gabbi's. I have never seen the others here in the U.S. Maybe Gilbert would know.


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.... OK....  I didn't get a website on that address: casadasconcertinas.pt  maybe it is slightly different?

I know that Elio Gabbanelli builds for several Portugese brands.. I now remember seeing that Serenata name around. Organola..( I'm not sure about Organolla ).. has been around for a long time.. most likely defunct ..OR.. someone bought the name out, and is producing..a pretty common affair here. ( i.e. Ranco, Soprani, Santamarsala .. are all produced by folks who bought the name when the original producers were no longer around )...

 

 

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I bought 2 Serenata accordions like the one you discribed from a person that had them made by Excellsior in Italy. His name is Rick Williams and he is from the Seattle Washington area.He sold me the last 2 Serenatas and an Excellsior that he had left because he was going out of the accordion business. I bought the accordions and everything else he had including reeds,reed blocks, straps, backpads that snap on back of accordion to keep from scratching it,bellows tape and cellulose in different colors. He told me that Excellsior was making this accordion brand exclusively for him and he  started selling them a few years ago when he was living in Phoenix Arizona. He said he was getting out of the business because he was having to pay too much in import taxes. Anyway the accordions have a letter E on the middle of the grill like the Excellsior did, One was a 2 tone gold sparkle the other was a gold sparkle 3 switch about the size of a 103 Gabb. The Excellsior was a green sparkle 3 switch about the size of a 103 Gabb also, They had Cagnoni Dural reeds which are very good quality reeds.I already sold the accordions to local people and I used them for a year playing with my conjunto and they have used them for about 1 and a 1/2 years and have not hurt or broken any reeds.Does the one you are talking about have small switches compared to the ones on other brands?

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Juan Santos, can you email me at

tigerrr333@yahoo.com

 

I have been trying to get reed blocks for my serenata/excelsior.

 

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I owe you guys an apology I was wrong on the web site. I did it on a general search. Here's the web site. http://www.casa-das-concertinas.planetaclix.pt.  I'm sure you won't have any problems understanding Portuguese.


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When you go on that website "Marcas" means brands. The Serenata I'm talking about is under "Electronico". It is the exact same one that I played It was outstanding.


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Mine is different. Mine is exactly what juan santos has because i got mine from rick williams too.

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 ... Organola was a very well known builder.. mostly chromatics.. found on French eBay regularly.Organola did diatonics as well which resembled the old Hohner Club models.

Glenn,

 

It's not surprising that you've noticed similarities between the old Organola and Hohner accordions, as it was a Hohner (seemingly prestige) brand in the 1930s, the models I've seen tending to be up-market from the Hohner-badged equivalents. It was used, for example, on a special B/C 36-bass model, with reeds pinned-on-leather, designed by Jimmy Shand in the mid-1930s and made only for the Scottish market, one of which I possess.

 

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I owe you guys an apology I was wrong on the web site. I did it on a general search. Here's the web site. http://www.casa-das-concertinas.planetaclix.pt.

Hey Rico,

 

That link still doesn't work, try this one instead:

http://casa-das-concertinas.planetaclix.pt/

 

But these Organolas http://casa-das-concertinas.planetaclix.pt/organola.htm appear to be of recent Italian construction, and nothing to do with Hohner.

 

Saludos,

 

Stephen

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Indeed Organolas were of the Hohner family  ( the pre WWII Organolas were fantastic.. you can find some chromatics on French eBay ).. These Portugese boxes I would imagine are Italian .. and very probably built by Polverini ( who build the Cantabella brand ) given the shape.

So I would assume these are made up Cantabellas ??  Could be wrong.

 

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Rico

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Stephen and Glenn,

   You guys are good and knowledgeable with this stuff. The Organola was approximately 5 years old. And the Serenata is brand new as you see it on that website. It has Midi, and internal mike. This guy told me that he paid about 3200 Euros for it. Add 22% to find out the dollar cost. But since you guys are in Europe you know how to figure that out. These accordions that the Portuguese are usually wet in sound. Ranco actually has an accordion model called "Portugal". I might be wrong but it seems to be the one with the most bells and whistles. It might be because the diversity of the music. I'm sure both of you guys must have seen the Portuguese playing. They really utilize the whole instrument especially in "Rancho Folclore" music. One thing I laugh about, is that they are the only ones in the world that call it a "Concertina".


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Wow! I'm 10 years late to this conversations but good to know about these concertinas. I will purchase one of those soon by the brand of RECANATI. Does anyone know more about those?
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