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Sup yall....

 

I needa good wireless mic for my accordion... does anyone have a website or something i could go look at or tell me what kind i need...

 

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A decent system for accordion starts around $400.  Prices only go up from there.  Let me know what kind of accordion(s) you have, and how much money you can spend, and I can make some recommendations.


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Hola Chino,

 

Para el acordeon "5-switch" yo te recomiendo una systema con la Beta 98 de Shure o la C416 de AKG.  Ay unos dos o tres mas que tambien son buenas pero estos son los más comunes.

 

Con la Shure, si tienes el dinero, Averigüe la systema ULX14/Beta98H.  Esta es una systema professional y te va durar por muchos anos. Esta systma te sale aproximadamente $900.

 

Con La AKG, la mejor systema inalambrico que tienen es la WMS 4000, pero no hay un paquete específico que viene con todo como la Shure.  Tienes que decirles que quieres específicamente el micrófono C416 con la systema.  Tambien es una sistema professional.  Yo he visto a Michael Salgado usar esta misma sistema.  Te va salir como $1100

 

Hay otras sistemas que venden las dos companias por menos precio, como la PGX, o SLX de shure.  O la WMS 40, o WMS 400 de AKG.  Tambien son buenas, pero si tienes el dinero, por supuesto que te recomiendo las sistemas professionales.

 

Para monitores de oido, no compras menos que la sistema PSM 400 de Shure.  Especificamente el modelo P4TRE3.  Esa sistema te sale acerca de $800.  Definitivamente no son económicos, pero he tenido muchos problemas con los baratos. 


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Does Anyone know what wireless mic is most used by professional accordionist, for example Los Cardenales, Beto El de Pesado Y Los tigres Del Norte. HELP ME

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-Shure Beta98
-AKG C416
-Sennheiser e608 and e908
-Audio-Technica ATM35
-Beyerdynamic Opus 86

To be honest, generally the artists themselves probably don't really know what mic is on thier accordion at any given show.  That's up to their sound people generally.  But I don't think I've ever seen a clip mic on a major artist's accordion that wasn't one of these...or a variation of it.

Well...except for Ricky from Intocable.  They use a Crown CM311 headset mic and somehow fit it on his accordion.

Someone chime in if I've forgotten any...


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Mr. Sanchez: Question

Is it better to have a wireless mic.. on the accordion.. or a regular.. Mic/?

- Did i CLARIFY myself?


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Hi Seney,

Well, that's entirely up to the artist and their style.  If an accordionist for the most part remains stationary throughout the show, then a wired mic is great, and presents less problems for the audio engineer running the show.

However, I like to move around on stage.  It's part of the way I play.  I've said before that putting me on a wired mic is like cutting off my legs because I need the freedom move around.  With a mic that clips on the grill you are assured of consistant coverage no matter how much you move around.  The caveat is that you have to prepare more as far as sound goes for a "mobile" microphone so that you don't have problems like feedback, wireless dropouts, dead batteries, etc...

You can have success with either one, so it really is a matter of taste.


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i did exacly what ricky did i cut the mic piece off of my old audio technica headset and attached it to my hohner well what is the cheapest wireless mic i can get?


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Beyerdynamic has a system where you can add another beltpack that is a mini-mixer that will mix up to three Opus 86s together to one wireless output each with individual volume control.

That allows up to two for the treble side and one for the bass, or vice versa.  I've never tried it, but it sounds like a cool idea.  Beyerdynamic mics are as good as anything out there, for anyone that hasn't heard of them.

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well what is the cheapest wireless mic i can get?


Wireless isn't anything you want to buy cheap.  Usually if you get something under $400, you just end up buying problems in the long run.  Some people have used cheaper systems with some success, but I wouldn't roll the dice.  If you don't plan on traveling much and you aren't too worried about playing places with a lot of TV and Radio interference, I would recommend at least this system here:

Samson Airline 77 (Wind Instrument) Street price around $400

Or this one:  (Much better mic for about $100 more)

PGX14/BETA98H  Street price is around $500


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This is my take on the mic for accordion,I have played Blues harp for at least 30 years and went back and forth with diff mics,and amps.I think a implanted mic with a 1/4 inch out jack that can be used to plug into a amp or the PA would be the best way to go.I know some more top of the line accordions come with this set up. And Iv seen on ebay where you can buy this pickup with the jack to have installed on any accordion.I think this set up would be alot cheaper than a 400 dollar mic,But to each his own,And than again there is the cord to worry about,Musicians Friend has alot of cordless mics also at most of the time cheaper than a local music store.

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This is also a matter of taste.  Some folks use internal mics with success, others, like myself prefer the sound from outside the grill.

You have to remember, whereas builders of expensive accordions are undisputed masters of their craft, they are not necessarily audio reinforcement experts.  They want to offer something to their customers if they ask, but I'm sure much more time is spent building accordions and perfecting techniques.

If I was blindfolded and I heard an accordion with an external mic and one with an multiple internal mic setup, dry and unprocessed, I can usually pick out the internal mic setup pretty quickly.  I won't say it's a bad sound just different.  I can hear the comb filtering, "chorusing" or "flanging" effect that is caused by sounds bouncing around inside the grill.  Certain frequencies cancel each other out, others sum, all arriving at multiple mics at different times.  The average person probably wouldn't care much though, it just bothers geeks like me  because I know what that sounds like, and I consider those types of audio phenomenon problems unless that is the effect desired by the artist. 

So in the end, it's all preference, but it helps to experiment with different methods and find out what is best for you. 


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Tengo el Bueno Bonito Y barato Shure GLX-D/Beta98
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I have 2 BETA 98H mic   s on my box. They are spliced together and hooked up to the same system. They sound great. I also own a 3D printer so I printed some holders for them. The whole system was $620. 


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